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== Basic Information == | |||
=== # What is Over? === | |||
Over is a roguelike roleplaying game. Roguelike games are similar to other | |||
# | |||
rpgs except for the fact that you only control one person instead of a party. | rpgs except for the fact that you only control one person instead of a party. | ||
Roguelike games also do not have excellent graphics and more energy is devoted | Roguelike games also do not have excellent graphics and more energy is devoted | ||
to the story. Over probably has the best graphics of all the other Rougelike | to the story. Over probably has the best graphics of all the other Rougelike | ||
games. | games. Roguelike games also tend to be free.:) | ||
==== What is the latest version of Over? ==== | |||
The latest version of Over is version 0.09 | |||
# | ==== # What are the Over websites? ==== | ||
You can find the latest version of the FAQ at http://members.aol.com/TDavis3407/over.html | |||
http://members.aol.com/TDavis3407/over.html | |||
The official over website is at http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~jbarrow | The official over website is at http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~jbarrow | ||
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where you can send suggestions about over. | where you can send suggestions about over. | ||
=== Where can I participate in discussions about Over? === | |||
The newsgroup rec.games.rougelike.misc. If you want the OVER maintainer to | |||
read those posts. You should email it to him also. I've found that he usually | read those posts. You should email it to him also. I've found that he usually | ||
responds to questions within a day. | responds to questions within a day. | ||
=== How come I never get any updates any more for that email listing I joined off of Jeff Barrow's homepage? === | |||
off of Jeff Barrow's homepage? | Jeff Barrow lost that list. I'm not sure if it's still up. Updates from | ||
now on will most likely be posted on the roguelike homepage and the | now on will most likely be posted on the roguelike homepage and the | ||
rec.roguelike.misc newsgroup. | rec.roguelike.misc newsgroup. | ||
# | === # Is development for Over still active? === | ||
It's been Over a year since the game has been updated. Jeff has said that | |||
he is still working on the game. Hopefully, the web page will be updated soon | he is still working on the game. Hopefully, the web page will be updated soon | ||
as to give people a sign. | as to give people a sign. | ||
=== Wizards suck! What's the point of using them? === | |||
The designer intended to give Wizards a random assortment of scrolls and | |||
potions but forgot(again). I reminded him this time so he shouldn't forget. | potions but forgot(again). I reminded him this time so he shouldn't forget. | ||
Also, Wizards start out with the highest intelligence in the game which | Also, Wizards start out with the highest intelligence in the game which | ||
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helps offset their initial weaknesses. | helps offset their initial weaknesses. | ||
=== Item related questions === | |||
==== How come if I drink a potion twice it doesn't have the same effect? ==== | |||
Some potions have the same color. Jeff probably did this so you couldn't | |||
just write down what the potion did and avoid it if the effects were bad or | just write down what the potion did and avoid it if the effects were bad or | ||
drink it again if the effects were good. If you want to know what will happen | drink it again if the effects were good. If you want to know what will happen | ||
when you drink a potion you'll have to identify it. | when you drink a potion you'll have to identify it. | ||
==== How come there are so many items in over? ==== | |||
Lots of items never hurts. Also a the different character classes have | |||
their tools of the trade, which all have to be included. | their tools of the trade, which all have to be included. | ||
=== Maintainers === | |||
==== Who should I email if I have any questions or comments for the FAQ? ==== | |||
TDavis3407@aol.com | |||
==== Who is the Over maintainer? ==== | |||
His name is Jeff and is email address is jbarrow@ihug.co.nz. | |||
==== What about that other guy who maintains the unofficial web page? ==== | |||
Halomist@aol.com | |||
== Strategy Information == | |||
=== What kind of information is in the Strategy section? === | |||
Currently there is a listing of the character classes and their advantages. | |||
There are also strategies to keep yourself alive. These strategies may contain | There are also strategies to keep yourself alive. These strategies may contain | ||
vague references to specific levels. If you don't want to know that | vague references to specific levels. If you don't want to know that | ||
information turn back now. It only gets worse. | information turn back now. It only gets worse. | ||
=== How can I keep myself alive? === | |||
When you start out you get 8 hitpoints. Here's a tactic that will help you | |||
survive. Whenever you are surronded by tons of enemies use a teleport scroll | survive. Whenever you are surronded by tons of enemies use a teleport scroll | ||
and pray you teleport to an area with less monsters. | and pray you teleport to an area with less monsters. This has actually saved | ||
my live. | my live. The last game I tried this tactic in my character advanced to level 7. | ||
7. | |||
=== What are some basic strategies? === | |||
Wait for monsters to come to you. Rabbits and rats will not come | |||
torwards you. Always kill the harder monster first if you're surronded. | torwards you. Always kill the harder monster first if you're surronded. In | ||
deep levels you will get surronded by lots of large monsters. On deeper levels | deep levels you will get surronded by lots of large monsters. On deeper levels | ||
more important to have a higher AC than WC. | more important to have a higher AC than WC. Try to get it to 22-26 so they | ||
don't hit as much while you whack them with your one-handed weapon. | don't hit as much while you whack them with your one-handed weapon. | ||
=== What classes are there in Over? === | |||
You can choose from Madman, Caveman, Ninja, Fighter, Barbarian, Wizard, | |||
Medic, Cleric, Jester, and Spy. | Medic, Cleric, Jester, and Spy. | ||
=== I'm doing great. Unfortunately on one level I faced an item lull. === | |||
now I'm worried that I won't be able to face the monsters on the next level | ... And now I'm worried that I won't be able to face the monsters on the next level without the necessary items? | ||
without the necessary items? | |||
Well you have two choices you can either pray that at the next level you | |||
don't climb the stairs next to a horde of monsters or you can spend sometime | don't climb the stairs next to a horde of monsters or you can spend sometime | ||
whacking at creatures on the level you're at. | whacking at creatures on the level you're at. I suggest you do both. | ||
Note: Starting AC and WC values are the values that you get with the | === What advantages are there for the various classes? === | ||
preequiped items. | Note: Starting AC and WC values are the values that you get with the preequiped items. | ||
Strength 8 | * Cleric | ||
Intelligence 14 | :Strength 8 | ||
Dexterity 8 | :Intelligence 14 | ||
Mace | :Dexterity 8 | ||
Softleather | :Mace | ||
Starting WC: 6 | :Softleather | ||
Starting AC: 2 | :Starting WC: 6 | ||
:Starting AC: 2 | |||
Strategy: Clerics have the second highest intelligence. They are fairly | Strategy: Clerics have the second highest intelligence. They are fairly | ||
strong and fast. They're low AC at the beginning might prove to be a problem. | strong and fast. They're low AC at the beginning might prove to be a problem. | ||
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their intelligence you should try to drink just about every potion you find. | their intelligence you should try to drink just about every potion you find. | ||
Caveman | * Caveman | ||
Strength 18 | :Strength 18 | ||
Intelligence 3 | :Intelligence 3 | ||
Dexterity 9 | :Dexterity 9 | ||
Rock | :Rock | ||
Large Club | :Large Club | ||
Starting WC: 6 | :Starting WC: 6 | ||
Starting AC: 0 | :Starting AC: 0 | ||
Strategies: Cavemen have the lowest intelligence. You will want to avoid | Strategies: Cavemen have the lowest intelligence. You will want to avoid | ||
drinking potions until around level 5 or 6 where you need to start taking | drinking potions until around level 5 or 6 where you need to start taking | ||
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Get decent armor fast. | Get decent armor fast. | ||
Spy | * Spy | ||
Strength 8 | :Strength 8 | ||
Intelligence 10 | :Intelligence 10 | ||
Dexterity 13 | :Dexterity 13 | ||
Dirk | :Dirk | ||
Trenchcoat | :Trenchcoat | ||
Buckler | :Buckler | ||
Starting WC: 4 | :Starting WC: 4 | ||
Starting AC: 3 | :Starting AC: 3 | ||
Strategies: | Strategies: Spies have the highest total stat points 8 + 13 + 10 = 31. | ||
Everyone else has 30. The also have the second highest dexterity by only one | Everyone else has 30. The also have the second highest dexterity by only one | ||
point. And a decent intelligence. And very respectable items. I think that | point. And a decent intelligence. And very respectable items. I think that | ||
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as I can see. | as I can see. | ||
Jester | * Jester | ||
Strength 8 | :Strength 8 | ||
Intelligence 8 | :Intelligence 8 | ||
Dexterity 14 | :Dexterity 14 | ||
Stick | :Stick | ||
Jester Suit | :Jester Suit | ||
Jester Cap | :Jester Cap | ||
Starting WC: 1 | :Starting WC: 1 | ||
Starting AC: 2 | :Starting AC: 2 | ||
Strategies: Jesters have the best dexterity. Dexterity is the best stat IMHO. | Strategies: Jesters have the best dexterity. Dexterity is the best stat IMHO. | ||
Becuase it is both used to determine what you can hit and how well you can | |||
dodge. Unfortunately it's only one point higher than a spy's. And they're | dodge. Unfortunately it's only one point higher than a spy's. And they're | ||
starting equipment is as bad as wizards. | starting equipment is as bad as wizards. Skip this class and if you want to | ||
play with a high dexterity class stick with a spy. | play with a high dexterity class stick with a spy. | ||
Medic | * Medic | ||
Strength 9 | :Strength 9 | ||
Intelligence 11 | :Intelligence 11 | ||
Dexterity 10 | :Dexterity 10 | ||
Scalpel | :Scalpel | ||
Labcoat | :Labcoat | ||
Starting WC: 1 | :Starting WC: 1 | ||
Starting AC: 1 | :Starting AC: 1 | ||
Strategies: | Strategies: These guys have the worst starting equipment. And there stats are | ||
just about the same as madmen. Forget about them. | just about the same as madmen. Forget about them. If you want a character | ||
that is equal in all three stats play madmen. | that is equal in all three stats play madmen. | ||
Wizard | * Wizard | ||
Strength 6 | :Strength 6 | ||
Intelligence 18 | :Intelligence 18 | ||
Dexterity 6 | :Dexterity 6 | ||
Dagger | :Dagger | ||
Cloth Armor | :Cloth Armor | ||
Starting AC: 1 | :Starting AC: 1 | ||
Starting WC: 1 | :Starting WC: 1 | ||
Strategies: Awful starting equipment. High intelligence. I reccommend | Strategies: Awful starting equipment. High intelligence. I reccommend | ||
skipping this class and playing clerics. Clerics have lower intelligence but | skipping this class and playing clerics. Clerics have lower intelligence but | ||
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on par with the wizard. | on par with the wizard. | ||
Fighter | * Fighter | ||
Strength 14 | :Strength 14 | ||
Intelligence 8 | :Intelligence 8 | ||
Dexterity 8 | :Dexterity 8 | ||
Longsword | :Longsword | ||
Ring Mail | :Ring Mail | ||
Small Shield | :Small Shield | ||
Starting WC: 8 | :Starting WC: 8 | ||
Starting AC: 7 | :Starting AC: 7 | ||
Strategies: Fighters have the best starting equipment. And the second highest | Strategies: Fighters have the best starting equipment. And the second highest | ||
strength. These guys are good until you want to star drinking potions and then | strength. These guys are good until you want to star drinking potions and then | ||
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the beginning but get harder as the game progresses. | the beginning but get harder as the game progresses. | ||
Barbarian | * Barbarian | ||
Strength 14 | :Strength 14 | ||
Intelligence 6 | :Intelligence 6 | ||
Dexterity 10 | :Dexterity 10 | ||
Waraxe | :Waraxe | ||
Softleather | :Softleather | ||
Starting WC: 6 | :Starting WC: 6 | ||
Starting AC: 1 | :Starting AC: 1 | ||
Strategies: These guys are more war like fighters with less intelligence and | Strategies: These guys are more war like fighters with less intelligence and | ||
less equipment. They make up for it with higher dexterity. They feel the same | less equipment. They make up for it with higher dexterity. They feel the same | ||
as fighters except it's even harder for them than fighters later in the game. | as fighters except it's even harder for them than fighters later in the game. | ||
Madman | * Madman | ||
Strength 10 | :Strength 10 | ||
Intelligence 10 | :Intelligence 10 | ||
Dexterity 10 | :Dexterity 10 | ||
Breadknife | :Breadknife | ||
Rusty Ringmail | :Rusty Ringmail | ||
Party hat | :Party hat | ||
Starting WC: 3 | :Starting WC: 3 | ||
Starting AC: 5 | :Starting AC: 5 | ||
Strategies: These guys have balanced stats in all regards and pretty good | Strategies: These guys have balanced stats in all regards and pretty good | ||
equipment. Excellent class. | equipment. Excellent class. | ||
Ninja | * Ninja | ||
Strength 15 | :Strength 15 | ||
Intelligence 5 | :Intelligence 5 | ||
Dexterity 10 | :Dexterity 10 | ||
Ninja Coif | :Ninja Coif | ||
Nunchaku | :Nunchaku | ||
Starting WC: 8 | :Starting WC: 8 | ||
Starting AC: 6 | :Starting AC: 6 | ||
Strategies: High strength. Good dexterity. Low intelligence. Rocking stats. | Strategies: High strength. Good dexterity. Low intelligence. Rocking stats. | ||
Good equipment. Unfortunately, there starting weapon is two handed. I don't | |||
like two handed weapons. These guys are good for fighting. As with all | like two handed weapons. These guys are good for fighting. As with all | ||
fighter classes you will struggle later because of their lack of ability to | fighter classes you will struggle later because of their lack of ability to | ||
identify potions well. | identify potions well. | ||
==== Can you give me strategies for the various classes? ==== | |||
Yes. There are basically four groups balanced classes (basically equal in | |||
all three stats), high intelligence, high strength, and high dexterity. A high | all three stats), high intelligence, high strength, and high dexterity. A high | ||
intelligence class will obviously try to try drink every single potion that | intelligence class will obviously try to try drink every single potion that | ||
comes along. You might lose some stats but eventually(if you can survive) | comes along. You might lose some stats but eventually (if you can survive) | ||
you'll figure out what every potion does. That's a huge advantage. High | you'll figure out what every potion does. That's a huge advantage. High | ||
strength obviously helps in bashing monsters quickly. You might want to use a | strength obviously helps in bashing monsters quickly. You might want to use a | ||
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still doing small damage now and then. | still doing small damage now and then. | ||
=== What are the caluculations for everything in over? === | |||
To hit is a check of your WC against target AC, with modifiers for | |||
randomness, strength & dex and potion effects, damage is the difference in | randomness, strength & dex and potion effects, damage is the difference in | ||
the calculation modified by strength. This is a straight intelligence check - | the calculation modified by strength. This is a straight intelligence check - | ||
A higher intelligence = higher chance of indentifying. | A higher intelligence = higher chance of indentifying. | ||
=== Does the weapon type make a difference in any calculations or is WC the only thing that matters? === | |||
only thing that matters? | For the most part (and in 0.08 and earlier) WC is the only important thing | ||
- however some of the higher WC weapons are 2 handed, so this limits the armour | - however some of the higher WC weapons are 2 handed, so this limits the armour | ||
potential. | potential. | ||
== Spoiler Information == | |||
=== # What kind of stuff can I find in spoiler information? === | |||
# | Currently all there is is a listing of the AC and WC of all the normal items | ||
in the game. If you don't want that information turn back now. Cheat keys | in the game. If you don't want that information turn back now. Cheat keys | ||
would be listed here if any existed. | would be listed here if any existed. | ||
=== What is the WC and AC value of all the standard types of weapons and armor in the game? === | |||
in the game? | ==== WEAPONS ==== | ||
<table> | |||
<tr><td>ITEM</td><td>WC</td><td>HANDS</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Stick</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> | |||
Stick | <tr><td>Rock</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Rock | <tr><td>Cutting Tool</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Cutting Tool | <tr><td>Credit Card</td><td>2</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Credit Card | <tr><td>Bread Knife</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Bread Knife | <tr><td>Scalpel</td><td>3</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Scalpel | <tr><td>Dagger</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Dagger | <tr><td>Small Club</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Small Club | <tr><td>Dirk</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Dirk | <tr><td>BlackJack</td><td>4</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td>Long Dagger</td><td>5</td><td>1</td></tr> | |||
Long Dagger | <tr><td>Truncheon</td><td>5</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Truncheon | <tr><td>Mace</td><td>6</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Mace | <tr><td>Short Sword</td><td>6</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Short Sword | <tr><td>Sai</td><td>6</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Sai | <tr><td>Spear</td><td>6</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Spear | <tr><td>Large Club</td><td>6</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
Large Club | <tr><td>Whip</td><td>6</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Whip | <tr><td>Crowbar</td><td>6</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
Crowbar | <tr><td>Flail</td><td>7</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Flail | <tr><td>Iron Rod</td><td>7</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Iron Rod | <tr><td>Long Sword</td><td>8</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Long Sword | <tr><td>Hammer</td><td>8</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Hammer | <tr><td>Waraxe</td><td>8</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Waraxe | <tr><td>Wakizashi</td><td>8</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Wakizashi | <tr><td>Nunchaku</td><td>8</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td>Morning Star</td><td>8</td><td>1</td></tr> | |||
Morning Star | <tr><td>War Hammer</td><td>10</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td>Battle Axe</td><td>10</td><td>2</td></tr> | |||
Battle Axe | <tr><td>Sabre</td><td>10</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Sabre | <tr><td>Katana</td><td>10</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
Katana | <tr><td>Trident</td><td>10</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
Trident | <tr><td>Pike</td><td>12</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
Pike | <tr><td>2 Handed Sword</td><td>12</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
2 Handed Sword | <tr><td>2 Handed Axe</td><td>14</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
2 Handed Axe | <tr><td>2 Handed Hammer</td><td>14</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
2 Handed Hammer 14 | </table> | ||
==== ARMOUR ==== | |||
ARMOUR | <table> | ||
Hawaiian Shirt | <tr><td>ITEM</td><td>AC</td></tr> | ||
Cloth Armour | <tr><td>Hawaiian Shirt</td><td>0</td></tr> | ||
Jester Suit | <tr><td>Cloth Armour</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td>Jester Suit</td><td>1</td></tr> | |||
Suit | <tr><td>Lab Coat</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Soft Leather | <tr><td>Suit</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Trenchcoat | <tr><td>Soft Leather</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
Normal Leather | <tr><td>Trenchcoat</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
Hard Leather | <tr><td>Normal Leather</td><td>3</td></tr> | ||
Elf Leather | <tr><td>Hard Leather</td><td>4</td></tr> | ||
Rusty Ringmail | <tr><td>Elf Leather</td><td>5</td></tr> | ||
Ring Mail | <tr><td>Rusty Ringmail</td><td>5</td></tr> | ||
Ninja Garb | <tr><td>Ring Mail</td><td>6</td></tr> | ||
BP Vest | <tr><td>Ninja Garb</td><td>6</td></tr> | ||
Scale Armour | <tr><td>BP Vest</td><td>6</td></tr> | ||
Chainmail | <tr><td>Scale Armour</td><td>7</td></tr> | ||
Samurai Armour | <tr><td>Chainmail</td><td>8</td></tr> | ||
Platemail | <tr><td>Samurai Armour</td><td>8</td></tr> | ||
Dwarven Chainmail | <tr><td>Platemail</td><td>9</td></tr> | ||
Elven Chainmail | <tr><td>Dwarven Chainmail</td><td>9</td></tr> | ||
Banded Mail | <tr><td>Elven Chainmail</td><td>9</td></tr> | ||
Splint Mail | <tr><td>Banded Mail</td><td>9</td></tr> | ||
Full Plate | <tr><td>Splint Mail</td><td>9</td></tr> | ||
Troll Hide | <tr><td>Full Plate</td><td>10</td></tr> | ||
Silver Plate | <tr><td>Troll Hide</td><td>10</td></tr> | ||
Dragon Plate | <tr><td>Silver Plate</td><td>11</td></tr> | ||
Holy Plate | <tr><td>Dragon Plate</td><td>12</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td>Holy Plate</td><td>12</td></tr> | |||
CAPS & HELMETS | </table> | ||
Paper Hat | ==== CAPS & HELMETS ==== | ||
Party Hat | <table> | ||
Turban | <tr><td>ITEM</td><td>AC</td></tr> | ||
Jester Cap | <tr><td>Paper Hat</td><td>0</td></tr> | ||
Cloth Cap | <tr><td>Party Hat</td><td>0</td></tr> | ||
Leather Cap | <tr><td>Turban</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Tin Helmet | <tr><td>Jester Cap</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Ninja Coif | <tr><td>Cloth Cap</td><td>1</td></tr> | ||
Hard Hat | <tr><td>Leather Cap</td><td>2</td></tr> | ||
Iron Helm | <tr><td>Tin Helmet</td><td>3</td></tr> | ||
Winged Helmet | <tr><td>Ninja Coif</td><td>3</td></tr> | ||
Horned Helm | <tr><td>Hard Hat</td><td>3</td></tr> | ||
War Helm | <tr><td>Iron Helm</td><td>4</td></tr> | ||
Visored Helm | <tr><td>Winged Helmet</td><td>4</td></tr> | ||
Bamboo Helm | <tr><td>Horned Helm</td><td>4</td></tr> | ||
Titan Helm | <tr><td>War Helm</td><td>5</td></tr> | ||
<tr><td>Visored Helm</td><td>5</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Bamboo Helm</td><td>5</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Titan Helm</td><td>10</td></tr> | |||
</table> | |||
# | ==== SHIELDS ==== | ||
<table> | |||
<tr><td>ITEM</td><td>AC</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Small Shield</td><td>1</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Buckler</td><td>1</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Large Shield</td><td>2</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Tower Shield</td><td>3</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Bronze Shield</td><td>4</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Golden Shield</td><td>4</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Jade Shield</td><td>5</td></tr> | |||
<tr><td>Sun Shield</td><td>9</td></tr> | |||
</table> | |||
=== # What are the cheat keys for over? === | |||
No cheat codes exist. | |||
=== Are there any secret classes in over? === | |||
Yes. In the character class selection screen. Keep pressing down until no | |||
class is highlighted then press enter. This character class sucks and has no | class is highlighted then press enter. This character class sucks and has no | ||
items in his inventory or any stats. | items in his inventory or any stats. This is a more of a bug than a secret | ||
character. | character. |
Revision as of 13:34, 2 October 2009
--- Over Faq 1.1.6b ---
Legend:
* New questions
# questions with more information or changed answers
Basic Information
# What is Over?
Over is a roguelike roleplaying game. Roguelike games are similar to other rpgs except for the fact that you only control one person instead of a party. Roguelike games also do not have excellent graphics and more energy is devoted to the story. Over probably has the best graphics of all the other Rougelike games. Roguelike games also tend to be free.:)
What is the latest version of Over?
The latest version of Over is version 0.09
# What are the Over websites?
You can find the latest version of the FAQ at http://members.aol.com/TDavis3407/over.html
The official over website is at http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~jbarrow
Spoilers on Monsters, Weapons, and Armor are available at http://www.geocities.com/Area51/rampart/1084/over.html There is also a survery where you can send suggestions about over.
Where can I participate in discussions about Over?
The newsgroup rec.games.rougelike.misc. If you want the OVER maintainer to read those posts. You should email it to him also. I've found that he usually responds to questions within a day.
How come I never get any updates any more for that email listing I joined off of Jeff Barrow's homepage?
Jeff Barrow lost that list. I'm not sure if it's still up. Updates from now on will most likely be posted on the roguelike homepage and the rec.roguelike.misc newsgroup.
# Is development for Over still active?
It's been Over a year since the game has been updated. Jeff has said that he is still working on the game. Hopefully, the web page will be updated soon as to give people a sign.
Wizards suck! What's the point of using them?
The designer intended to give Wizards a random assortment of scrolls and potions but forgot(again). I reminded him this time so he shouldn't forget. Also, Wizards start out with the highest intelligence in the game which seriously helps to identify the potion you just drank. This helps a lot and helps offset their initial weaknesses.
How come if I drink a potion twice it doesn't have the same effect?
Some potions have the same color. Jeff probably did this so you couldn't just write down what the potion did and avoid it if the effects were bad or drink it again if the effects were good. If you want to know what will happen when you drink a potion you'll have to identify it.
How come there are so many items in over?
Lots of items never hurts. Also a the different character classes have their tools of the trade, which all have to be included.
Maintainers
Who should I email if I have any questions or comments for the FAQ?
TDavis3407@aol.com
Who is the Over maintainer?
His name is Jeff and is email address is jbarrow@ihug.co.nz.
What about that other guy who maintains the unofficial web page?
Halomist@aol.com
Strategy Information
What kind of information is in the Strategy section?
Currently there is a listing of the character classes and their advantages. There are also strategies to keep yourself alive. These strategies may contain vague references to specific levels. If you don't want to know that information turn back now. It only gets worse.
How can I keep myself alive?
When you start out you get 8 hitpoints. Here's a tactic that will help you survive. Whenever you are surronded by tons of enemies use a teleport scroll and pray you teleport to an area with less monsters. This has actually saved my live. The last game I tried this tactic in my character advanced to level 7.
What are some basic strategies?
Wait for monsters to come to you. Rabbits and rats will not come torwards you. Always kill the harder monster first if you're surronded. In deep levels you will get surronded by lots of large monsters. On deeper levels more important to have a higher AC than WC. Try to get it to 22-26 so they don't hit as much while you whack them with your one-handed weapon.
What classes are there in Over?
You can choose from Madman, Caveman, Ninja, Fighter, Barbarian, Wizard, Medic, Cleric, Jester, and Spy.
I'm doing great. Unfortunately on one level I faced an item lull.
... And now I'm worried that I won't be able to face the monsters on the next level without the necessary items?
Well you have two choices you can either pray that at the next level you don't climb the stairs next to a horde of monsters or you can spend sometime whacking at creatures on the level you're at. I suggest you do both.
What advantages are there for the various classes?
Note: Starting AC and WC values are the values that you get with the preequiped items.
- Cleric
- Strength 8
- Intelligence 14
- Dexterity 8
- Mace
- Softleather
- Starting WC: 6
- Starting AC: 2
Strategy: Clerics have the second highest intelligence. They are fairly strong and fast. They're low AC at the beginning might prove to be a problem. But just keep trying and eventually you'll get a decent suit of armor. With their intelligence you should try to drink just about every potion you find.
- Caveman
- Strength 18
- Intelligence 3
- Dexterity 9
- Rock
- Large Club
- Starting WC: 6
- Starting AC: 0
Strategies: Cavemen have the lowest intelligence. You will want to avoid drinking potions until around level 5 or 6 where you need to start taking chances to survive. They also have the lowest armor class at the beginning. Get decent armor fast.
- Spy
- Strength 8
- Intelligence 10
- Dexterity 13
- Dirk
- Trenchcoat
- Buckler
- Starting WC: 4
- Starting AC: 3
Strategies: Spies have the highest total stat points 8 + 13 + 10 = 31. Everyone else has 30. The also have the second highest dexterity by only one point. And a decent intelligence. And very respectable items. I think that spys are the best class. They're very balanced and have no weaknesses as far as I can see.
- Jester
- Strength 8
- Intelligence 8
- Dexterity 14
- Stick
- Jester Suit
- Jester Cap
- Starting WC: 1
- Starting AC: 2
Strategies: Jesters have the best dexterity. Dexterity is the best stat IMHO. Becuase it is both used to determine what you can hit and how well you can dodge. Unfortunately it's only one point higher than a spy's. And they're starting equipment is as bad as wizards. Skip this class and if you want to play with a high dexterity class stick with a spy.
- Medic
- Strength 9
- Intelligence 11
- Dexterity 10
- Scalpel
- Labcoat
- Starting WC: 1
- Starting AC: 1
Strategies: These guys have the worst starting equipment. And there stats are just about the same as madmen. Forget about them. If you want a character that is equal in all three stats play madmen.
- Wizard
- Strength 6
- Intelligence 18
- Dexterity 6
- Dagger
- Cloth Armor
- Starting AC: 1
- Starting WC: 1
Strategies: Awful starting equipment. High intelligence. I reccommend skipping this class and playing clerics. Clerics have lower intelligence but carry slightly more strength and dexterity. And what do you need potions for to raise strength and dexterity. Eventually the clerics intelligence will be on par with the wizard.
- Fighter
- Strength 14
- Intelligence 8
- Dexterity 8
- Longsword
- Ring Mail
- Small Shield
- Starting WC: 8
- Starting AC: 7
Strategies: Fighters have the best starting equipment. And the second highest strength. These guys are good until you want to star drinking potions and then they don't memorize the potion enough times to make a sip worthwhile. Easy at the beginning but get harder as the game progresses.
- Barbarian
- Strength 14
- Intelligence 6
- Dexterity 10
- Waraxe
- Softleather
- Starting WC: 6
- Starting AC: 1
Strategies: These guys are more war like fighters with less intelligence and less equipment. They make up for it with higher dexterity. They feel the same as fighters except it's even harder for them than fighters later in the game.
- Madman
- Strength 10
- Intelligence 10
- Dexterity 10
- Breadknife
- Rusty Ringmail
- Party hat
- Starting WC: 3
- Starting AC: 5
Strategies: These guys have balanced stats in all regards and pretty good equipment. Excellent class.
- Ninja
- Strength 15
- Intelligence 5
- Dexterity 10
- Ninja Coif
- Nunchaku
- Starting WC: 8
- Starting AC: 6
Strategies: High strength. Good dexterity. Low intelligence. Rocking stats. Good equipment. Unfortunately, there starting weapon is two handed. I don't like two handed weapons. These guys are good for fighting. As with all fighter classes you will struggle later because of their lack of ability to identify potions well.
Can you give me strategies for the various classes?
Yes. There are basically four groups balanced classes (basically equal in all three stats), high intelligence, high strength, and high dexterity. A high intelligence class will obviously try to try drink every single potion that comes along. You might lose some stats but eventually (if you can survive) you'll figure out what every potion does. That's a huge advantage. High strength obviously helps in bashing monsters quickly. You might want to use a two handed weapon so they do more damage. And high dexterity is only available through the Jester(although a thief might be included in future versions). A good Jester strategy is to keep your armor class as high as possible while still doing small damage now and then.
What are the caluculations for everything in over?
To hit is a check of your WC against target AC, with modifiers for randomness, strength & dex and potion effects, damage is the difference in the calculation modified by strength. This is a straight intelligence check - A higher intelligence = higher chance of indentifying.
Does the weapon type make a difference in any calculations or is WC the only thing that matters?
For the most part (and in 0.08 and earlier) WC is the only important thing - however some of the higher WC weapons are 2 handed, so this limits the armour potential.
Spoiler Information
# What kind of stuff can I find in spoiler information?
Currently all there is is a listing of the AC and WC of all the normal items in the game. If you don't want that information turn back now. Cheat keys would be listed here if any existed.
What is the WC and AC value of all the standard types of weapons and armor in the game?
WEAPONS
ITEM | WC | HANDS |
Stick | 1 | 1 |
Rock | 2 | 1 |
Cutting Tool | 2 | 1 |
Credit Card | 2 | 1 |
Bread Knife | 3 | 1 |
Scalpel | 3 | 1 |
Dagger | 4 | 1 |
Small Club | 4 | 1 |
Dirk | 4 | 1 |
BlackJack | 4 | 1 |
Long Dagger | 5 | 1 |
Truncheon | 5 | 1 |
Mace | 6 | 1 |
Short Sword | 6 | 1 |
Sai | 6 | 1 |
Spear | 6 | 1 |
Large Club | 6 | 2 |
Whip | 6 | 1 |
Crowbar | 6 | 2 |
Flail | 7 | 1 |
Iron Rod | 7 | 1 |
Long Sword | 8 | 1 |
Hammer | 8 | 1 |
Waraxe | 8 | 1 |
Wakizashi | 8 | 1 |
Nunchaku | 8 | 2 |
Morning Star | 8 | 1 |
War Hammer | 10 | 1 |
Battle Axe | 10 | 2 |
Sabre | 10 | 1 |
Katana | 10 | 2 |
Trident | 10 | 2 |
Pike | 12 | 2 |
2 Handed Sword | 12 | 2 |
2 Handed Axe | 14 | 2 |
2 Handed Hammer | 14 | 2 |
ARMOUR
ITEM | AC |
Hawaiian Shirt | 0 |
Cloth Armour | 1 |
Jester Suit | 1 |
Lab Coat | 1 |
Suit | 1 |
Soft Leather | 2 |
Trenchcoat | 2 |
Normal Leather | 3 |
Hard Leather | 4 |
Elf Leather | 5 |
Rusty Ringmail | 5 |
Ring Mail | 6 |
Ninja Garb | 6 |
BP Vest | 6 |
Scale Armour | 7 |
Chainmail | 8 |
Samurai Armour | 8 |
Platemail | 9 |
Dwarven Chainmail | 9 |
Elven Chainmail | 9 |
Banded Mail | 9 |
Splint Mail | 9 |
Full Plate | 10 |
Troll Hide | 10 |
Silver Plate | 11 |
Dragon Plate | 12 |
Holy Plate | 12 |
CAPS & HELMETS
ITEM | AC |
Paper Hat | 0 |
Party Hat | 0 |
Turban | 1 |
Jester Cap | 1 |
Cloth Cap | 1 |
Leather Cap | 2 |
Tin Helmet | 3 |
Ninja Coif | 3 |
Hard Hat | 3 |
Iron Helm | 4 |
Winged Helmet | 4 |
Horned Helm | 4 |
War Helm | 5 |
Visored Helm | 5 |
Bamboo Helm | 5 |
Titan Helm | 10 |
SHIELDS
ITEM | AC |
Small Shield | 1 |
Buckler | 1 |
Large Shield | 2 |
Tower Shield | 3 |
Bronze Shield | 4 |
Golden Shield | 4 |
Jade Shield | 5 |
Sun Shield | 9 |
# What are the cheat keys for over?
No cheat codes exist.
Are there any secret classes in over?
Yes. In the character class selection screen. Keep pressing down until no class is highlighted then press enter. This character class sucks and has no items in his inventory or any stats. This is a more of a bug than a secret character.