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This page is intended to contain a summary of information on how to translate [[w:NetHack|NetHack]] or other [[w:roguelike|roguelike]] games into other languages.
This page is intended to contain a summary of information on how to translate [[NetHack]] or other [[roguelike]] games into other languages.


'''This is not a complete list. For more information on roguelikes in your language, do a Google search.'''
'''This is not a complete list. For more information on roguelikes in your language, do a Google search.'''


== Translations available ==
== Rogulikes in Non-English Languages ==


=== Czech ===
=== Czech ===
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* [http://ksi.ii.uj.edu.pl/krogue/ KRogue], the KDE-improved version of [[Rogue]], works in French.
* [http://ksi.ii.uj.edu.pl/krogue/ KRogue], the KDE-improved version of [[Rogue]], works in French.
* [[CryptRL]] works in English and French.
* [[CryptRL]] works in English and French.
=== German ===
* [http://www.netzhack.de/ NetzHack] (note the 'z') is a German translation of NetHack. Runs on Linux, Win32, *BSD, OS X.
* [http://nethack-de.sourceforge.net/ NetHack-De] is an unfinished translation of NetHack into German for Linux and Win32.
* [[Lost Labyrinth]] works in English and German.


=== Japanese ===
=== Japanese ===
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=== Polish ===
=== Polish ===


* I do not know. Try a Google search or ask in the Polish [http://www.googlegroups.com newsgroup] pl.rec.gry.komputerowe.roguelike for more information.
* RUSH - http://www.rush.republika.pl/
* Podziemia - http://www.podziemia.ugu.pl/
* [[Drogue]] - http://bzss.org/drcz/drogue33/drogue33.htm
* Tasak - http://www.rzuf.kom.pl/
All entirely and only in Polish.
Try a Google search or ask in the Polish [http://groups.google.com/group/pl.rec.gry.komputerowe.roguelike/topics newsgroup] pl.rec.gry.komputerowe.roguelike for more information.


=== Russian ===
=== Russian ===


*Russian version of ADOM exists (in fact, there are several of them)
* Russian version of ADOM exists (in fact, there are several of them), although they are not grammatically correct.
* [[Menskband]] is a roguelike game similar to Angband.
* [[Baryonyx]]
* There was an attempt to make a translation of Angband into Russian which met with some success. Search at http://www.googlegroups.com for more details.
* There was an attempt to make a translation of Angband into Russian which met with some success. Search at http://www.googlegroups.com for more details.


=== Spanish ===
=== Spanish ===


* [[Dawn of the Dead Roguelike|The Dawn of the Dead III]] is exclusively in Spanish.
* There is a [http://spanish-nethack.sourceforge.net/ Spanish translation] of NetHack available.
* There is a [http://spanish-nethack.sourceforge.net/ Spanish translation] of NetHack available.
* [http://comoelrogue.blogspot.com Como el Rogue] is a Spanish roguelike in development


The translations of NetHack and SlashEm do not use [[w:gettext|GNU gettext]], the standard system for translating all applications, because of the fancy linguistic operations that NetHack and SlashEm do.
The translations of NetHack and SlashEm do not use [[wikipedia:gettext|GNU gettext]], the standard system for translating all applications, because of the fancy linguistic operations that NetHack and SlashEm do.


=== Translations not released ===
=== Translations not released ===
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Many other people have started (and often abandoned) work on other translations; search the [http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=group%3Arec.games.roguelike.*+internationalization%7Clocalization%7Cl10n%7Ci18n%7Ctranslation%7Cgettext rec.games.roguelike.* newsgroups] for more info. If you find information on abandoned roguelikes, please post the original translator's contact information here if possible.
Many other people have started (and often abandoned) work on other translations; search the [http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=group%3Arec.games.roguelike.*+internationalization%7Clocalization%7Cl10n%7Ci18n%7Ctranslation%7Cgettext rec.games.roguelike.* newsgroups] for more info. If you find information on abandoned roguelikes, please post the original translator's contact information here if possible.


There is a [https://launchpad.net/projects/roguelike/ Ubuntu roguelike translation project] although it has just been started and is not yet active.
There is an [https://launchpad.net/roguelike/ Ubuntu roguelike translation project] although it has just been started and is not yet active.


== Translation issues ==
== Translation issues ==
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* Issues that affect all software translators:
* Issues that affect all software translators:
** conjugating verbs
** Inflection: conjugating verbs; declining nouns, pronouns and adjectives
** combining nouns and adjectives
** Number and gender agreement between nouns and adjectives, verbs and subjects
** mixing numbers and nouns
** Natural gender vs. grammatical gender
** masculine/feminine
** Number: singular/plural/dual
** single/dual/plural


* Issues specific to roguelikes:
* Issues specific to roguelikes:
** the parsing of text the user enters at the wishing prompt
** Parsing user's text input at the wishing prompt
** Lack of internationalized program structure
 
NetHack constructs sentences using the superficial morphology of English, rarely using any grammatical information such as number, gender, subject or object case, etc. Making the code conjugate verbs and decline nouns and adjectives in another language is therefore part of the work involved in translating the program. These issues are different in each language, and the NetHack source code does not anticipate them.
 
The [http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Localization NetHack Wiki] has some information on localization strategies.


NetHack often constructs sentences, such as "You hit the dwarf!", "The dwarf hits!" (not "The dwarf hit!"), "2 scrolls of identify" (not "scroll of identifys"). Issues that come up during translation include the conjugation of verbs, the combination of nouns with adjectives ("cursed", "rustproof"), numbering ("2 the scrolls of identify" would be wrong), masculine versus feminine words, and singular versus dual versus plural words. These issues are different in each language, and the NetHack source code often does not anticipate issues specific to non-English languages.
See also [[Localization Project]].


For more info, see [http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=group%3Arec.games.roguelike.*+internationalization%7Clocalization%7Cl10n%7Ci18n%7Ctranslation%7Cgettext the appropriate threads in the rec.games.roguelike.* newsgroups].
For more info, see [http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=group%3Arec.games.roguelike.*+internationalization%7Clocalization%7Cl10n%7Ci18n%7Ctranslation%7Cgettext the appropriate threads in the rec.games.roguelike.* newsgroups].
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Latest revision as of 09:41, 24 August 2014

This page is intended to contain a summary of information on how to translate NetHack or other roguelike games into other languages.

This is not a complete list. For more information on roguelikes in your language, do a Google search.

Rogulikes in Non-English Languages

Czech

  • CalcRogue works in English and Czech. CalcRogue is a Rogue clone for Windows, Linux, PalmPilots, and certain QWERTY-keyboard TI calculators.

French

  • KRogue, the KDE-improved version of Rogue, works in French.
  • CryptRL works in English and French.

German

  • NetzHack (note the 'z') is a German translation of NetHack. Runs on Linux, Win32, *BSD, OS X.
  • NetHack-De is an unfinished translation of NetHack into German for Linux and Win32.
  • Lost Labyrinth works in English and German.

Japanese

  • There are Japanese translations of NetHack and Slash'EM available.
  • Angband 2.8.3 and several variants have been translated into

Japanese. More information is available at the following web pages:

Polish

All entirely and only in Polish. Try a Google search or ask in the Polish newsgroup pl.rec.gry.komputerowe.roguelike for more information.

Russian

  • Russian version of ADOM exists (in fact, there are several of them), although they are not grammatically correct.
  • Menskband is a roguelike game similar to Angband.
  • Baryonyx
  • There was an attempt to make a translation of Angband into Russian which met with some success. Search at http://www.googlegroups.com for more details.

Spanish

The translations of NetHack and SlashEm do not use GNU gettext, the standard system for translating all applications, because of the fancy linguistic operations that NetHack and SlashEm do.

Translations not released

Many other people have started (and often abandoned) work on other translations; search the rec.games.roguelike.* newsgroups for more info. If you find information on abandoned roguelikes, please post the original translator's contact information here if possible.

There is an Ubuntu roguelike translation project although it has just been started and is not yet active.

Translation issues

Issues in translating roguelikes include:

  • Issues that affect all software translators:
    • Inflection: conjugating verbs; declining nouns, pronouns and adjectives
    • Number and gender agreement between nouns and adjectives, verbs and subjects
    • Natural gender vs. grammatical gender
    • Number: singular/plural/dual
  • Issues specific to roguelikes:
    • Parsing user's text input at the wishing prompt
    • Lack of internationalized program structure

NetHack constructs sentences using the superficial morphology of English, rarely using any grammatical information such as number, gender, subject or object case, etc. Making the code conjugate verbs and decline nouns and adjectives in another language is therefore part of the work involved in translating the program. These issues are different in each language, and the NetHack source code does not anticipate them.

The NetHack Wiki has some information on localization strategies.

See also Localization Project.

For more info, see the appropriate threads in the rec.games.roguelike.* newsgroups.