RogueBasin talk:Community Portal
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Spambots
There was a small spambot attack recently, dunno how they overrid the spam protection (what is the current spam protection)? I had no luck blocking them via the sysop special pages. Is there any way to delete user accounts?
--Slash 01:08, 12 Apr 2007 (CEST)
I think it may be useful to update MediaWiki software to the latest version. The one that's currently installed is so old, the mind boggles. The current version has captchas and other stuff, and it's much easier to revert vandalism. Grue 10:23, 12 Apr 2007 (CEST)
IIRC Bj????rn set up the latest version when the server translation was performed? Also, this is plain vandalism, not even spam (deleting '+' and everything after a '&', what use would that have? --Slash 17:19, 12 Apr 2007 (CEST)
- It can't be the latest version. For example when you look at the diff between two revisions, there's no link to edit the revision. This feature was in Wikipedia since I joined it, probably, and that was very long time ago. So, to revert vandalism one has to click three times instead of two, pretty annoying. I don't know, maybe it's configured incorrectly, but it definitely looks very outdated. Grue 10:52, 13 Apr 2007 (CEST)
- It's definitely an old version, the Special:Version page shows as using version 1.3.9 (The 1.3.x line was last updated in November 2005). The newest release is 1.10.0 although most modern versions of MediaWiki require PHP5 though (since version 1.7). The latest version that still supports PHP4 is 1.6.10 available here. 1.6.10 was released on 20th February 2007. -- Pucechan 01:18, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
- THe Wiki is currently running MediaWiki 1.6.10. Hopefully we won't see any more spam attacks. -- Bjorn 09:50 3 Jul 2007
There was another spammer, although it could be a person doing it, rather than a bot. It was this account doing it, and this was was what he did.
Remove the news?
I was wondering if it is a good idea to keep the news box on the main page. My thoughts:
- We have three main news sites: RGRA, Temple of the Roguelike and the RogueBasin. That's a lot of duplicating.
- I feel that the RGRA and Temple of the Roguelike are way more suited to displaying news. I see the RogueBasin as a resource of articles, guides and information about roguelikes.
- The news box could be used to display other things. Such as new articles here, articles that we would like to improve and featured roguelikes.
What do people think? Icey 14:45, 27 May 2007 (CEST)
- I agree, both RGRA and TotR seem better places for sources of news (But saying that I do have TotR as a Live Bookmark in Firefox) although I have no problem having a smaller box with the last couple of items. I'd sooner see the space taken with new articles, articles for improvement and featured roguelikes as suggested. -- Pucechan 01:18, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
- RGRA and Temple are moderated, which means the news don't appear ASAP. For example both of these mediums haven't covered The Sewer Massacre 1.0 yet (and not for my lack of trying ;)). The main principle behind news is that they are new. A day later is already old news. Imagine if JADE is released, and the news don't appear anywhere for a day. Wiki solves this problem perfectly. Grue 23:09, 28 May 2007 (CEST)
- That's one of the cons of a moderated media :) also, RGRA is moderated, but moderation commonly takes less than 1 hour in my Experience --Slash 16:35, 4 Jun 2007 (CEST)
- That is a good point, I hadn't really thought about the moderation aspect. Perhaps having a slightly different main page design would accommodate having sections for articles and featured items? Pucechan 18:36, 29 May 2007 (CEST)
- I've made a quick mockup of an idea, so colours and content (especially the top-right links) are just placeholders, this uses the fairly "traditional" block wiki format. The content is just copy-pasted but you get the idea. The news would be for each month (probably in a smaller font). See it here User:Pucechan/MainIdea. What do people think?
- I like it a lot. I've expanded the idea a bit: User:Icey/MainIdea. It's more wikipedia-like, has a little tag line so people know what the RogueBasin is, added the links to the top, added a featured article section, added a bit of colour and changes a few other things. Icey 02:12, 2 Jun 2007 (CEST)
- I like the changes you've made, the little splash of colour helps. I prefer your simple set of links rather than my bundle (I didn't really sort them in any way but your way is much nicer). I really like it. Pucechan 11:19, 2 Jun 2007 (CEST)
- Thanks Pucechan. Let's wait a few days to see if anyone else would like to improve/approve it and then decide what to do from there. Icey 13:19, 3 Jun 2007 (CEST)
- I like it a lot too... I have always thought roguebasin needs a better front page... perhaps changing "Current news" for "News for June 2007"?
- Also, it is pretty wordy, some images may help.. probably :P
- Thanks! --Slash 16:35, 4 Jun 2007 (CEST)
- I have enabled uploads for a trial period. Bjorn 09:50, 3 Jul 2007 (CEST)
External community links
One thing I think is missing from the main page is a list of external community links. The existing Roguelike_Links doesn't have Temple of the Roguelike, @ Play and other current resources like forums for various roguelike games listed (and dare I say it Ascii Dreams ;) )
Are people happy for me to tidy up the Links section, to include the above, a 'Press' section within Links for listing where external media have talked about roguelike games, and a Forums section within Links for listing the various game specific web forums such as the Angband forums, Angband variant web forums and others (Live Journal, other variants and so on)? I'd like to see more ways of people getting in touch with fellow roguelike players/developers listed somewhere convenient...
- That's an excellent idea. Perhaps we could use Links as a comprehensive list and then do a cut down version for the main page?
- Perhaps the Links page could have a Roguelike Blog section (or a name like that) for your site and others like [1] [2]
- Icey 18:52, 5 September 2007 (CEST)
All those guides!
Where did all those good guides at http://www.roguelikedevelopment.org/ go? according to the news, the content has been moved to this wiki but I can't find any of those guides! me want's 'em badly! Solarnus 11:28, 16 January 2008 (CET)
- Sorry, I meant of course that alot of guides are missing, as least most of the map algorithm stuff previously found on the old site is missing here at the wiki. Anyone got copies of those guides, please? Solarnus 14:28, 23 January 2008 (CET)
- And you looked in the map section of Articles? All the ones I recall are there. Perhaps you can use the wayback machine to calculate which ones seem to be missing? Duerig 17:12, 23 January 2008 (CET)
- lol, the wayback what..? No, realy, I know there's alot missing from the site. Some examples are the guides written by Mike Anderson (Dungeon-Building Algorithm, Fractal Landscapes) and Radomir "The Sheep" Dopieralski (Recursive LvL Generation) Solarnus 17:52, 23 January 2008 (CET)
- Look at this URL. It is from www.archive.org, the wayback machine for the Internet: http://web.archive.org/web/20060114055601/http://roguelikedevelopment.org/ but before you go adding all of the articles to the wiki, you should know that there was some effort to move them over, but only if the original authors could be found to give permission. So you should check with an admin here about what to do. Duerig 08:50, 24 January 2008 (CET)
- Oh crap, I thought I could just go and add what I managed to find, since it had already been released on the site o.0' Pardon me, I'm too quick sometimes, doing stuff without thinking first.
But, IMHO, not moving over all that stuff just because the original author couldn't be found kinda buggers me, that's just wast of time and good knowledge, stupidlly forcing to "reinvent the wheel". And it buggers me even more, since obvisiouly (spelling?) it can still be found on the web thanks to that wayback machine you're talking about (thanks for that link btw, would've never thought of that).
Thanks for telling me dude, I'll try slowing down/backing off and poke an admin about it before doing anything else.
Anyway, should the "previously missing" Dungeon-Building Algorithm article I dug up yesterday be removed, or just leave it for now and hope for the better? Solarnus 13:50, 24 January 2008 (CET)
- Oh crap, I thought I could just go and add what I managed to find, since it had already been released on the site o.0' Pardon me, I'm too quick sometimes, doing stuff without thinking first.
- Look at this URL. It is from www.archive.org, the wayback machine for the Internet: http://web.archive.org/web/20060114055601/http://roguelikedevelopment.org/ but before you go adding all of the articles to the wiki, you should know that there was some effort to move them over, but only if the original authors could be found to give permission. So you should check with an admin here about what to do. Duerig 08:50, 24 January 2008 (CET)
- lol, the wayback what..? No, realy, I know there's alot missing from the site. Some examples are the guides written by Mike Anderson (Dungeon-Building Algorithm, Fractal Landscapes) and Radomir "The Sheep" Dopieralski (Recursive LvL Generation) Solarnus 17:52, 23 January 2008 (CET)
- And you looked in the map section of Articles? All the ones I recall are there. Perhaps you can use the wayback machine to calculate which ones seem to be missing? Duerig 17:12, 23 January 2008 (CET)
- Is there any chance of the articles being reposted on the original site until they can be ported here? They're only text documents, and a number of them were very good references. Most of the original files are not stored on wayback machine, so forn ow they are lost for good. lapoubelle 30 April 2008
I have spent most of today searching for and collecting all of the articles that were on the old system but not on roguebasin. I was able to recover all but two. Those two and links to the archives are at User:Duerig. That way they should be safe until we can decide how to handle them. If the admins have a problem with this, I'll host them on my own domain if I have to. Let me know if you can find information on either of the two remaining articles. Duerig 21:53, 1 May 2008 (CEST)
THIS IS NOT A GAME ANNOUNCEMENT PAGE
Don't post game announcements here, there are other pages for that. Unsigned by User:Stu
- Probably would have been a little nicer and a whole lot more helpful to give a link to the appropriate location and to not all-caps/scream the header, especially since the Help section is completely blank (the most important part of any wiki that wants new contributors and knowledgeable editors), and the main Community Portal page just redirects straight here, making it totally useless as well to direct such notices to their appropriate location. Personally, I can't find a page that really matches what Caeonosphere appears to have been looking for. News seems to be the closest thing, but not really much of an announcement page for game developers so that they can get feedback. The site is a bit of a mess organizationally. Unfortunately, because of this, errant notices such as the one that you deleted are to be expected. Kiefer 13:44, 15 May 2008 (CEST)