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==Feedback wanted on article blanking==
== Articles unnecessarily protected. ==
I'm an admin here, and mostly what I do is remove spam posts. We don't have any mechanisms here to deal with disputes on article content, so I'm opening this discussion on what to do about a new user who has blanked several articles because they are asserted to be of low quality.


[[User:MisterMentat]] has blanked [[2D Room system architecture]], [[Gunshot Coding]] and [[System Architecture, the strategy to complex implementations]], with an edit summary for the last two of "The article is not well written, and it seems like it's bad spam text generated from a neural network." All three articles have the same original author, [[User:Youngblood]]. I agree that the articles are not of very good quality, but I don't think they are spam or generated from a neural network, and I think they have potential to improve. What do other editors here think? You can see the articles prior to blanking using the "History" tab.
Several pages are marked as protected and it's unclear why. [http://roguebasin.com/index.php/Special:ProtectedPages?namespace=0&type=edit&level=0&size-mode=min&size= You can see them here].
There no specified reason, I couldn't find any indications of abuse,
and some of the discussions concluded that the protection was accidental and that admins weren't able to get around to resolving them at the time.[http://roguebasin.com/index.php/Talk:CreatingAForest]
It's obvious why [[Main Page]] and [[Featured roguelike‎]] would be protected, but I think protections should be removed from all other pages unless a reason can be given. --[[User:HexDecimal|HexDecimal]] ([[User talk:HexDecimal|talk]]) 07:26, 22 June 2021 (UTC)


MisterMentat also removed an external link to www.kathekonta.com/rlguide/index.html from [[Articles]], saying "The link is dead, and it points to very suspects sites". I tried the link; it requested that I install Flash, and that might or might not be suspicious, but I chose not to proceed further. Note that I have not made the link clickable here. I'm not inclined to restore this link myself.
: It seems most of these came from a rgrd thing where people would agree to share their articles in roguebasin but specified they didn't want edits. I will dig into it and put the real cause if that's the case. --[[User:Slash|Slash]] ([[User talk:Slash|talk]]) 16:19, 22 June 2021 (UTC)


I'll notify MisterMentat and Youngblood about this post.-[[User:Muscles|Muscles]] ([[User talk:Muscles|talk]]) 05:53, 28 September 2019 (CEST)
:: I didn't realize that.  It's unfortunate that several of those pages have minor errors which can't be fixed.  If that's the case then I think it'd have been better to have external links to the original articles instead of mirroring them on the wiki, or at least segregate them in some way that makes it clear that they aren't normal wiki pages.
:: I found the [[RGRD Wiki Project]] page which mentions that the pages would be protected.  These pages were supposed to have the author info in a small template but that seems to be missing from the protected pages I checked.  --[[User:HexDecimal|HexDecimal]] ([[User talk:HexDecimal|talk]]) 22:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)


: www.kathekonta.com/rlguide/index.html redirects to an auto-forwarding site that then proceeds to one of a number of commercial sites (one of which being amazon.co.uk). Removing it was definitely the correct move. [[User:PaulBlay|PaulBlay]] ([[User talk:PaulBlay|talk]])
== Can't upload new images. ==


== Link to Temple of Roguelike Forum is broken ==
I wanted to upload a new image example for [[Scrolling map]] but I receive the following error when I attempt to upload it:
: Could not open lock file for "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/c/c8/Camera_vectors.png". Make sure your upload directory is configured correctly and your web server has permission to write to that directory. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:$wgUploadDirectory for more information.
--[[User:HexDecimal|HexDecimal]] ([[User talk:HexDecimal|talk]]) 00:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)


The correct link should be https://forums.roguetemple.com/index.php AFAICT. But I don't have the permission to edit the page. Somebody please fix this?&mdash;[[User:Blargdag|Blargdag]] ([[User talk:Blargdag|talk]]) 23:26, 6 November 2020 (CET)
:I get that error too. Sorry, not something I can help with. Could be connected to the upgrade in July. [[User:Slash|Slash]], can you look into this please.-[[User:Muscles|Muscles]] ([[User talk:Muscles|talk]]) 02:24, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
:The link goes directly to the forum discussing RogueBasin, not the top level forum page. That appears to be deliberate.-[[User:Muscles|Muscles]] ([[User talk:Muscles|talk]]) 02:55, 7 November 2020 (CET)
 
::Hmm, weird.  I could've sworn it went to some HTTP error page. Probably some intermittent server failure perhaps? In any case, it seems to work now, so nevermind.&mdash;[[User:Blargdag|Blargdag]] ([[User talk:Blargdag|talk]]) 14:06, 7 November 2020 (CET)
:: This is fixed now --[[User:Slash|Slash]] ([[User talk:Slash|talk]]) 14:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
::Ohhh I see what happened. It's the link on [[Main_Page]] that's broken, but somehow the talk page redirects here??  That's a pretty strange thing to do for a talk page, but yeah. The link on [[RogueBasin talk:Community Portal]] works, but the link on [[Main_Page]] leads to a "page not found" error page. I clicked on "talk" from [[Main_Page]] but got redirected here instead.&mdash;[[User:Blargdag|Blargdag]] ([[User talk:Blargdag|talk]]) 14:11, 7 November 2020 (CET)
 
:::Sorry about the confusion. Fixed on the main page now.-[[User:Muscles|Muscles]] ([[User talk:Muscles|talk]]) 02:24, 8 November 2020 (CET)
== That Role Playing ==
::::Awesome, thanks!&mdash;[[User:Blargdag|Blargdag]] ([[User talk:Blargdag|talk]]) 06:05, 8 November 2020 (CET)
 
Hi, my name is Eugenia, we'd like to add our released game That Role Playing to RogueBasin database of RL games.
 
Steam link: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1673180/That_Role_Playing/
Released: 21 Oct 2021
 
[...]
 
: Please feel free to create a game page for it, it looks relevant for roguebasin. Thanks! --[[User:Slash|Slash]] ([[User talk:Slash|talk]]) 14:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 
:: I've created the page. Thank you! --[[User:Enginya|Enginya]] 05:19, 9 November 2021  (UTC)
 
== False assumption on the front page ==
 
“Modern traditional roguelikes often shun this aspect, in favor of accessibility for less hardcore players.”
This statement makes a generalizing and false assumption. Popular modern roguelikes like DCSS, Qud and ToME certainly don’t use graphics as an accessibility feature, nor are these graphics in any way a hindrance to “The True Experience”, as a genre gatekeeper would suggest. Qud in particular is fantastically enhanced via its graphics. It leaves others in the dust when it comes to art style and UX design. Definitely not a mere accessibility feature meant as scrap for the dogs. Let’s excise this subjective and obviously loaded language from the front page.

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Articles unnecessarily protected.

Several pages are marked as protected and it's unclear why. You can see them here. There no specified reason, I couldn't find any indications of abuse, and some of the discussions concluded that the protection was accidental and that admins weren't able to get around to resolving them at the time.[1] It's obvious why Main Page and Featured roguelike‎ would be protected, but I think protections should be removed from all other pages unless a reason can be given. --HexDecimal (talk) 07:26, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

It seems most of these came from a rgrd thing where people would agree to share their articles in roguebasin but specified they didn't want edits. I will dig into it and put the real cause if that's the case. --Slash (talk) 16:19, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
I didn't realize that. It's unfortunate that several of those pages have minor errors which can't be fixed. If that's the case then I think it'd have been better to have external links to the original articles instead of mirroring them on the wiki, or at least segregate them in some way that makes it clear that they aren't normal wiki pages.
I found the RGRD Wiki Project page which mentions that the pages would be protected. These pages were supposed to have the author info in a small template but that seems to be missing from the protected pages I checked. --HexDecimal (talk) 22:31, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Can't upload new images.

I wanted to upload a new image example for Scrolling map but I receive the following error when I attempt to upload it:

Could not open lock file for "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/c/c8/Camera_vectors.png". Make sure your upload directory is configured correctly and your web server has permission to write to that directory. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:$wgUploadDirectory for more information.

--HexDecimal (talk) 00:41, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I get that error too. Sorry, not something I can help with. Could be connected to the upgrade in July. Slash, can you look into this please.-Muscles (talk) 02:24, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
This is fixed now --Slash (talk) 14:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

That Role Playing

Hi, my name is Eugenia, we'd like to add our released game That Role Playing to RogueBasin database of RL games.

Steam link: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1673180/That_Role_Playing/ Released: 21 Oct 2021

[...]

Please feel free to create a game page for it, it looks relevant for roguebasin. Thanks! --Slash (talk) 14:44, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
I've created the page. Thank you! --Enginya 05:19, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

False assumption on the front page

“Modern traditional roguelikes often shun this aspect, in favor of accessibility for less hardcore players.” This statement makes a generalizing and false assumption. Popular modern roguelikes like DCSS, Qud and ToME certainly don’t use graphics as an accessibility feature, nor are these graphics in any way a hindrance to “The True Experience”, as a genre gatekeeper would suggest. Qud in particular is fantastically enhanced via its graphics. It leaves others in the dust when it comes to art style and UX design. Definitely not a mere accessibility feature meant as scrap for the dogs. Let’s excise this subjective and obviously loaded language from the front page.